As
you have probably heard by now, Liam Howlett will be DJing at Madonna's
gig in Brixton Academy on 28th November 2000. This gig is for competition
winners and music industry people only, the ordinary Prodigy fan like
you and me wont really get a chance to get in [read
the review now].
Now
the announcement of this has surprisingly stirred up a big discussion
among Prodigy fans, in particular in the newsgroup alt.music.prodigy-the.
Many long-time fans accuse Liam of 'selling out his principles' and
'not caring about the fans anymore'.
What
do you think? e-mail me your own opinion to madonnagig@nekosite.co.uk
and I'll put it up here.
Here
some opinions of Prodigy fans (unless otherwise stated from alt.music.prodigy-the):
FONZ
by e-mail:
"Liam has always said that he likes to do things that people
wouldn't expect
him to do, and who'd have guessed this?? The fact is that punk, as
an
attitude and as a musical genre, has been so media corrupted, packaged
and
sold, that those who wish to do something truly "punk" have
to use their
imaginations a little more. What could me more punk than djing at
a madonna
gig?? Everyone there will probably hate it!!
I've
always considered Madonna to be an incredible artist and performer.
She
also seems infinitely culturally aware (I dare say, more so than many
of
those who have voiced their opinion here), and is no stranger to underground,
contemporary music (as demonstrated by many of her associations and
musical
collaborators).
Considering
here previous relationship with old skool producer, Jellybean
Benitez, I'm sure Liams choice of old skool breaks will not seem too
alien to
her."
Dirtchamber:
"well
lets all jump around with joy, another possibilty of a liam
howlett dj set being recorded, who ever records this gig or even takes
a few pics of the gig should take note, you are capturing the lowest
point in the history of the prodigy, and dont say it isnt prodigy
history because its only liam djing at a friends gig, cos that is
bullshit, liam howlett carry's the name of the prodigy anything he
does
the prodigy does, Im sure adverts for this gig would carry LIAM HOWLETT
OF THE PRODIGY.
So
as a prodigy fan I beg of anyone going to this gig, please please
please dont take anything of this gig home with you and if you do
please keep it private.
I
think my worst nightmare would be going to the nexus site or neko's
site and seen pics of liam howlett djing with a huge madonna backdrop
in the background."
Dalaw:
"Maybe his new pop status, with hanging around pop stars might
have built up some respect in him to stand awful pop acts like Texas.
I
remember being at Glastonbury last year, I had the pain to go through
35 mins of Texas while waiting for Underworld to come on, they are
terrible live, worse than Mel C singing live!"
George
Wynder/ What evil lurks (by e-mail):
This is not what the prodigy are about. Liam always said that he was
never going to just do things because that's what the fans wanted.
The fact of the matter is, is that Liam and Madonna are friends, does
nobody remember the interview where madonna said she liked smack my
bitch up? So what if Liam does a DJ gig before Madonna? I couldn't
give a shit if he did a gig before some shitty boyband, just as long
as the music doesn't suffer, and I really don't think it will. He
will NOT be playing in front of a bunch of screaming madonna fans,
if he was then I very much doubt he would have agreed to do the gig,
he is playing to professionals and a few contest winners. Some of
you have said "Lets hope the next album's good" well, I know for a
fact that the next album isn't going to be the same as anything else
they have ever done. Prodigy are not like that. Look at the difference
between each of the 3 albums so far. Some people won't like it, I
am sure, but if you really consider yourself a fan, you will not criticise
the band for what they are doing. I have been a fan since experience,
and I am only 15, so I have been following them for half my life!
I know what I am on about, and you should too. If you complained about
this gig, then I don't think you can call yourself a true prodigy
fan.
industry:
True.
All I've ever seen or heard about Madonna's gigs, especially recent
ones, there is a real audience closeness and it's more of a party
then cos
most of them know her and are rather chilling there. It's not like
it'll be
ten thousand anonymous screaming people she's facing.
But what of Liam? Being a DJ, and being less known than FBS, I'm content
to assume he'll be the very first act. A sort of opener for the DJ
opener.
And how is Madonna's crowd, Richard Ashcroft fans, etc., going to
react to
Liam's old school and breakbeat shit, especially when it's the first
thing
they hear all night?
I think it's perfectly fine, really, as long as Liam retains his
less-chart-than-thou-art stance and plays what the fuck he wants.
I just
hope not to see him cater to such a varied crowd with lightweight
tunes in
an attempt to be more readily accepted. I doubt it, but we'll see.
Dirtchamber1:
"This is a very sad day in prodigy history, I've just been reading
the
star newspaper and found a little snippet about fatboy slim talking
about the madonna gig in brixton, and im still in state of shock that
Liam has agreed to dj at that biggest heap of shit gig I think i've
ever
seen, I suppose he's going to VOGUE during the Mexican, very fuckin
sad,
I've been a fan from about late 92 and I don't think there has ever
been
a lower low than this in prodigy history not even "Fashionably
loud"."
hwhaley:
"Can we say "sold out"? The Prodigy are fucking shit
now.... hmmmm back
in the good ol' days of 97 they would've fucking laughed in madonnas
face and told her to fuck off.......... time to go burn my albums
and
bootlegs. ::now::"
Prodigal
One:
Hey
everyone, seriously now, no need to go into mourning because liam
is DJing for madonna. he IS on her label. he IS famous. he IS the
man behind the prodigy. you ARE prodigy fans. someone go to the gig
and record the whole thing, i'd love to hear liam play, in my opinion,
a new prodigy track.
Peter
Thomas:
"He's sold out some of his principles, again. I remember Liam
going on
about being one of the crowd on stage, now he's gonna DJ to people
who
only got in through a Madonna-knowledge lottery on a radio station.
What
happened to us fans?"
"I'd
rather have Prodigy on Top Of The Pops than have this happen."
GX9000:
"Gimme
a break guys! Remember a little album called "Fat of the Land"?
Why
didn't you people squeel about that selling out? That album went to
#1 on
every back street's top of the pops, and you guys are bitching about
one
little DJ set? If you guys are so concerned with "he ain't cool
anymore now
that he's sold out" then no one's stopping you from going to
"cooler"
underground music that no one's heard of. All I gotta say to this
is stop
being so concerned whether he's a "sell out" or not, and
start checkin' out
how to either sneak in through the Brixton's back door or rush security
with
baseball bats! What fun can this DJ set be with only a handful of
fans
(Madonna fans at that, who answered Madonna-related skill testing
questions)
and snotty executives who were given tix so that record label paper
pushers
will stay in high standing with them! I don't care if Jimi Hendrix
is
playing, if the crowd blows goats, so will the atmosphere. If I was
GIVEN
tickets for free, I'd fucken sell them in 2 seconds flat despite my
respect
for Liam...
Besides,
if Liam wants to hang out with slutgurl..i mean madonna, then so be
it. i respected prodigy because of the music, not because of liam
howlett.
as long as he puts out good shit, i really couldn't care less if he
got
caught fucking benny hill up the ass.
basically
what i'm saying is don't blame liam for this, i'm sure someone
talked him into doing it for either big bucks or some other collateral
otherwise i think he would have second thoughts.
besides,
when it's all said and done, liam's just gonna be like "what
have i
done??? these people don't care about my dj set! they're all madonna
teenie
boppers!"
hey
man, he's the only one who's gonna look stupid, but don't diss his
music."
Rob
de Ford:
"I don't care who he dates or who he hangs around with, as long
as the
music doesn't suffer. If the upcoming album is as good as the previous
three, then Liam can hang out with O.J. Simpson for all I care."
Tom
Bell:
" The
simple fact is that although he may not have that underground persona
any longer, he still knows how to produce some great quality music.
Don't worry about his image, worry about the music. Hopefully the
next album will be good anyway."
Peter
Chain (by e-mail):
"Anyway, what do people bang in their empty heads?? Liam is POP
star, Prodigy
are POP stars! RATM were POP stars. They all recorded albums to earn
money,
they attended gigs to make people buy their music and they earned
some more
money on that, quite a logical. Madonna is the most talanted of pure(?)-pop
stars so far..
"BUY NOW!!! BUY US!!! BUY OUR GUTTERS!!!" - say offspring
when trying to act
cool raw fucking punk rock, though people get the message, spinning
by mtv,
they wouldn't spot out the band without it! They are sellouts, not
Prodigy or
any of it's members. Do you fuckers care reading? I don't care typing,
I'm
just laughing on you if you say "Liam is a sellout".
By the way, don't you think he's too damn weak? I wonder how he can
still
walk, he's a fucking sceleton already, he shoud push up, pull up...
...AND STOP PLUGGING A NEEDLE IN ARM!!! Hehe, sorry Liam :)"
Z|®©0/\/
(by e-mail):
"Ok first off, Liam is probably doing this gig to get in good
with his label, not to get in good with Madonna. Second off, so what?
It's a gig, and as a musician myself I've had to play shitty gigs
to keep people happy or to try to get some promotion for an upcoming
release. You have to think, because supposedly there is a new prodigy
CD coming out, there will be alot of radio people there, what better
way to promote it? Third, why should we say someone is selling out
when they make it big? Just because a person is getting paid, doing
big gigs, and selling CDs doesn't mean that he has sold out. It means
that he has made it big. Now I'm not saying that Liam should go off
and dj for the backstreet boys or any shite like that, I'm just saying
that this is one gig. You people complain about him not thinking about
the fans because this is an invite only, but you are completely wrong.
He's doing this for the fans. If he can get in good with people that
means more gigs, it means more airplay it means more fans. Which brings
me to another point. Why do you people have a problem with new fans??
Personally I love the Prodigy and I want everyone to know how great
they are. I guess that's all I really have to say....................."
Dena
Flint (by e-mail):
i totally back liam up even though i hate madonna and i think he really
shouldn't be doing this but, its liam's seperate project, and he should
do whatever makes him happy. Maybe no one wants him to but this is
liam's decision to make and he should do waht he wants!! And it would
be totally different if prodigy toured with her but this is just his
side project- so i say do what makes you happy Liam!
Sebastien
Bondue (by e-mail):
"It doesn't matter if Liam plays at this gig!! The most importance
is the music!! Madonna smells like shit but prodigy and liam are still
the same!! The place is not important and It could be with madonna
or someone else, Liam will play this music!! he will play what he
like and I think for him Madonna has no importance!! What is important
for him in my opinion is his music and not something else! There is
only one thing which dissapointed me! Why liam plays only in United
Kingdom?? WHY??? This is the question :o(("
LazyGit
(by e-mail):
"This backlash is just the kind of shit that I expect from people
who don't know the Prodigy. So what if Liam's DJing at a Madonna party?
Oh, yeah, it's her party BTW, not a commercial gig, the only reason
you know about it is because Radio1 is giving away tickets for it.
The Prodigy move in high social circles and they're also on Madonna's
label in the states so they've met a few times and if Liam's friends
with Madonna and he wants to do a bit of DJing at her party then he
can do, what fucking business is it of yours what he does with his
spare time? We all know Liam's not a sellout, if he was then he would
taken up Madonna's offer to co-write her last album instead of laughing
it off. I doubt Liam likes any of Madonna's music and I bet he definitely
wouldn't be doing support at a proper Madonna gig, he'd be booed off
stage for one. Yes, that's right, not everybody likes Prodigy and
Madonna fans aren't going to enjoy listening to Smack My Bitch Up
alongside 'Like A Virgin'.
Liam can do what he wants, as long as the Prodigy sound is still the
Prodigy sound nothing else matters, not who he dates, who he's friends
with, what cars he buys or where he goes for pizza. You'll have all
forgotten this when the next album comes out an it's their best yet."
Adnan,
Danamrk (by e-mail):
"First of all he plays some pop at fabric, then hanging out with
all saints and now dj-ing for madonna. This a huge change of Howletts
personality. If you have red the book; music for the voodoo crew,
then you see what Liam says about popmusic. Prodigy is nothing anymore.
The dancer of 9 years is gone, maxims doing solo very sucsesfully
and Liams home working on so colled 4. album. Can it get better.
Prodigy fans need to get some informations and answers. What the hell
is wrong with the best "electronica band in the wide world".
Hyena
(by e-mail):
Fat Of The Land being a sell-out record was more of a coincidence
and
phenomenon. Liam at that time said he wrote music for himself. He
also
mentioned the music scene stinks now, thus the recollection of his
records
in Dirtchamber Sessions Volume 1. I think until Natalie, he hardly
went
clubbing...what i am afraid has happened is that while hanging out
with the
mainstream, he felt a need to fit in coz he mentioned in Voodoo Crew
that he
hardly did back in school. Thus,he accepted the invitation. Either
that he
did it out of maintaining good terms with the label, after delaying
the
album for so long...yet again...
I
hope Liam's musical taste has stayed as unique and diverse, but that
his
ideas more innovative and different from yesteryears. Prodigy is a
successful band and we had made them richer by spreading their great
music,
fucking attitude, cool videos around and not that they're the "in"
thing or
marketed to be! It just happened out of our demand and expectations.
I was
disappointed to learn that he was supporting Madonna but nevertheless,
we
can truly debate this "sell-out" issue only after listening
to the new
album."
Diane
Willard by e-mail:
"I get so frustrated hearing about these fans who are quick to
turn on Liam,
just because he chooses to do something that they may not agree with.
Ok,
I'm not exactly happy with the decision he made, but I'm still sticking
by
him AS a fan. He's doing a gig, he's not changing his ways. He's a
dj, and
last time I checked, djs do gigs. Hmmm. Ok maybe it's just me who
sees it
that way. His friend asked him for a fun favor. He has to say no to
his
friends because his fans don't approve??? NO. Fuck them. <sorry>
Just
because I don't exactly like what he has decided to do doesn't mean
I turn
on him. I have been a fan since day one, well as day one as I can
get over
here. <being a Prodigy fan and living in the US kind of sucks>
I will be a
fan until the day I die. I may not like what they do all the time,
but I
would follow Liam and Prodigy where ever they go. I'm anticipating
the
release of their new masterpiece later next year. Can't wait!!"
Paul
Mhttas (by e-mail):
"Hey!
I don't want to hear any more of these crap. Will you all guys just
shut the fuck up. WHO THE FUCK ARE WE, to judge Liam's choices. Any
of you that will say ' Liam's has sold out' is 10000% not a real prodigy
fan. Just listen to your saying. It was just yesterday that we were
all jumping , screaming and dancing when a new prodigy vibe was on
sale and now all of you, just go on and put fucking names at prodigy
music. Anyone who is a real prodigy fan will remember that Liam's
idea of making music was not to name he's music and the prodigy style.
And then some of you will saying that prodigy are THE ELECTRONIC PUNKS
or others might say that prodigy are playing RAVE music or BIG-BEAT
and more bullshits like these. So now that Liam's Dj set with Madonna
is unounced the word POP comes in and everyone becomes Fucking wrong
with all the event. Becide that a real prodigy fan will also know
that Liam is not only o prodigy member but also a Pure DJ and DJing
was his first music experience ever before deciding to come with new
material and the prodigy. Even the Nekosite shouldn't create this
article cause some of you, supposed to be prodigy fans, if you search
deep incide you'll find that there's nothing more than music. Music
is love and care and buzz and dance. Music is not names and categories.
Liam Howllet know's that. Why can't you."
My
own opinion?
I don't
consider it to be such an important thing, people are getting a bit
too hysterical here. Nice that Liam is DJing again and Madonna is
in my opinion a credible artist who has achieved a lot. If Liam wants
to DJ at her gig, then why shouldn't he?
A bit
a shame that it's going to be almost impossible for us fans to get
in, though. I'd love to go. It would be interesting to see how a crowd
of Madonna fans and music industry people will react to Liam's DJ
set (if they are interested at all).
(neko)
e-mail
me your own opinion to madonnagig@nekosite.co.uk
and I'll put it up here.
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